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Author	Thread: "Resting" on iPhone
GregReese Posts: 2	"Resting" on iPhone Posted: 24 Aug 09 8:32 PM Used AllSport GPS on iPhone 3G running the 3.0 software. It shows that I was resting for almost the entire hike. What triggers resting? Was i just at too slow of a pace? It also missed part of the hike and added a red line between the points. Does that mean it lost signal or something? [Reply][Quote]
kevin77 Posts: 1237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 25 Aug 09 2:00 AM Yes, there are built in speed thresholds for resting based on the activity type. I know that for walking, resting is disabled. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be the same for hiking. At any rate, there is an option under the Settings screen that will allow you to disable rest detection for all activities. Give that a shot. Also, a red line on the map means that the application lost the GPS signal in that area. The GPS on cell phones can be quite sensitive. When hiking, try to leave your phone in an outer mesh pocket of your backpack. Simply placing the phone in your front pocket for an extended amount of time and going under some trees or something can cause it to loose the GPS signal. [Reply][Quote]
Olaf K Posts: 1	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 14 Mar 10 10:26 PM Hi, I have a similar problem with my BB Bold. I keep on getting yellow (Resting) pieces of line in my running recording. Changing them all in the map editor is horrible I get over 30 resting periods in a 6 KM run. But I cannot find the "disable rest detection for all activities" function. I should be te solution. Where do I find it? [Reply][Quote]
WPWoodJr Posts: 86	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 2:43 PM Quote: Originally posted by kevin77 Yes, there are built in speed thresholds for resting based on the activity type. I know that for walking, resting is disabled. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be the same for hiking. At any rate, there is an option under the Settings screen that will allow you to disable rest detection for all activities. Give that a shot. Kevin, on my BlackBerry Storm2 there is no option to disable resting. Is it only available on the iPhone app? I would like an option to set the speed at which resting occurs. It seems to default to 4mph when running which is too high for me. Often it shows me as resting when I wasn't even going that slow. I think this is because of the slight inaccuracy of GPS readings. You can easily get a 4mph reading that is spurious. For that reason it would be great if we could set the time threshold (as well as speed) for resting, for example only show as resting if you go under 3 mph for 10 or more seconds. [Reply][Quote]
kevin77 Posts: 1237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 5:00 PM Olaf K, unfortunately, the "disable rest detection" option is only available on the iPhone version. It has not been ported to the BlackBerry version yet. We'll try to keep you updated. [Reply][Quote]
kevin77 Posts: 1237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 5:02 PM WPWoodJr, correct, the option to disable rest detection is currently only available on the iPhone version. We appreciate the feedback and will pass it along to see what kind of features we can add in to meet your needs. [Reply][Quote]
Logan Swapp Posts: 237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 6:12 PM One semi-workaround for this problem might be to choose an activity with a lower resting speed threshold, like walking. That way even if the GPS reports your speed as lower than it really is, hopefully it'll still be high enough to not be considered resting with respect to the walking activity. The downside to this technique is that your trips will be named walking and listed as walking, and you'll need to edit them on the web to change it (although this will surely take less time than deleting all the resting segments in the map editor). [Reply][Quote]
WPWoodJr Posts: 86	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 6:37 PM If we use walking as the activity type, how will this affect the calories computation? What is the resting threshold for walking? [Reply][Quote]
huppmam Posts: 4	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 6:41 PM I've had better GPS response using the Armpocket. Keeps it out in the open. Fewer red streaks on my maps. I used it with a Blackberry Curve, but it's designed for the iPhone. I'm not affiliated with the company, just a satisfied customer. Wore mine through the Disney World Marathon. http://www.armpocket.com/index.php?page=p_sport-new2.php&id=2 [Reply][Quote]
Logan Swapp Posts: 237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 15 Mar 10 6:45 PM It will use a different calorie multiplier for walking, so your calories burned will be a little lower as well. Good point. The resting threshold is very low for walking, less than 1 mph, so as long as you are moving you shouldn't see any rest segments with that activity. Certainly not an ideal solution, but just throwing it out there as something to consider on a temporary basis. [Reply][Quote]
Shawn557 Posts: 13	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 23 Mar 10 2:42 AM +1 on the turning off the rest detect for Blackberry. I have a Blackberry tour with version 3.0 for Verizon and there is no option to turn off the rest detect for Running. When I run trails, a lot of the gnarly up hills are spent walking and it sees it as "resting". When I had the unsupported version 2.0 I had the "rest detect disabled" option. This would be a nice feature if you guys could add it. Shawn [Reply][Quote]
Bob Wold Posts: 890	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 23 Mar 10 3:57 PM Thanks Shawn. That feature is in the code, but it will probably be a month or two before the update makes it out to app world. Thanks for pointing that out. [Reply][Quote]
jsprunger Posts: 3	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 04 Apr 10 5:43 PM Just upgraded to v3 for my Bold 9700. I would agree with the above posts and would love to have the rest detect disable function. Thanks for a great product. [Reply][Quote]
WPWoodJr Posts: 86	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 05 Apr 10 2:49 AM In the "Active time and Distance" thread, I suggested some better alternatives than turning off rest detection entirely. [Reply][Quote]
kevin77 Posts: 1237	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 05 Apr 10 4:50 AM What Bob meant by turning rest detection off was really changing it to "stop detection". This is what most Garmin devices do, and I believe it will be more intuitive and meaningful than what we currently have. What do you think about that idea? Your suggestion of providing the user options to control and fine tune it is great, but I'm not sure how necessary it would be and how much complexity it might add for the end users. For some people, having a bunch of options and settings is great, but for other people, it's not. It's often a fine line. But keep the feedback coming. [Reply][Quote]
WPWoodJr Posts: 86	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 05 Apr 10 3:16 PM Well, you could put the parameter settings under an "Advanced" configuration screen. I don't really subscribe to the notion that people can't figure out how to use options that are important to their device/software functioning properly. Those who don't care don't need to modify them. Re "Stop" vs "Rest" detection, I would probably use stop detection if it was pretty accurate. I like the idea of rest detection though, for instance if I was walking for 1 minute then running for 5 or whatever. But the current implementation interprets slow-downs due to hills or bad data as rests. It just seems too aggressive and I'd like more control over it. - Bill [Reply][Quote]
Bob Wold Posts: 890	Re: "Resting" on iPhone Posted: 06 Apr 10 7:05 PM Hey guys, So there are two related but different features that are getting a little mixed up here I think. 1. Turn off Rest Detection This feature is in the code, and it will result in having only "Active" or "GPS Lost" status. There will not be any more "Rest" status for recorded trips. This feature would be good enough for me, and it sounds like most users. 2. Change Rest Detection to Stop detection This feature is on the roadmap, but we don't want to get it wrong, so we are not going to rush this feature. Basically most users who have been asked have said that they really want to know when they are "stopped". This feature is on the roadmap, but I'm not sure when it will make it out. Hopefully disabling rest detection will be enough in the mean time. If anyone has any feedback on the Stop vs Rest issue, please let us know in the "Active time and Distance" thread. Thanks! Bob [Reply][Quote]
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